Fri 7 Dec 2007
Here’s some more honest information that may or may not interest you: I got wind of this from a post in Grizzly’s blog How to Make Money Online for Beginners.
Following the crackdown on link selling and paid review writing blogs by Google, it appears they are not intent on stopping there with their single-minded all-out assault on the acquisition of links by any means other than the natural way.
By that I mean if you think a website is really helpful to you and contains lots of relevant information to your search, it would be natural for you to provide a link to it on your own site so that others could find it and make use of it too. That’s a naturally given link to a good site.
The opposite is giving a link to another site whether it’s good or just a page full of crappy ads just so that you can either obtain a reciprocal link, or get paid in some way for providing the link. This is what Google are quite rightly trying to stamp out so that the sites at the top of its list are relevant to the search term entered.
No arguments there.
But it is coming at a terrible price for small blog owners who are trying to raise the profile of their own blogs and make a few bob in the process. The argument has been raging for over a month now and there’s not a lot of point in adding any more fuel to the fire here.
What I’ve since learned has dampened the blogging spirit just a little more – that Google may well increase their slapping activities to include blogs that use the do-follow plug-in.
That would make sense as their primary goal is to stamp out ANY form of link acquisition that is not naturally generated and this would include obtaining back-links for posting comments in other people’s blogs that allow it.
For that reason, this blog has deactivated the do-follow plug-in until this matter is clarified.
It has been noted that Blogger (the free blogging host that is owned by Google) has removed the URL box from all it’s blogs comment boxes, so you are no longer able to enter your URL when posting a comment to a Blogger blog. That effectively sends out the message that Google will not tolerate anyone even giving away free links.
Where will it stop?
How will anyone be able to obtain links to their sites if no-one is allowed to give them without fear of losing their own page rank?
Will anyone who even links to one of his OWN sites be penalized if he doesn’t use nofollow?
Does that just mean that only the very top sites will ever get to the top of the search engine results pages because everyone else links to them?
Ok, it hasn’t come to that (yet) and let us hope it never does… but one thing still amazes me about the whole slapping thing.
How come the very recipients of these paid links still have their infernal page rank?
And one more thing to ponder.
PayPerPost are the paid review site most targeted by Google as it hammers it’s member bloggers blog’s page ranks down to zero. It must be hard work sifting through all those 100,000 or so blogs to find the ones with links that have earned their owner’s a few dollars.
You’d think they’d go after the easiest site of them all to find in order to slap their page rank down to zero to make an example, but they have not and this particular site’s page rank is still PR5.
Who am I talking about?
PayPerPost themselves!
Go figure!







December 8th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
What makes you think that blogs using dofollow will be penalized? I’m not saying you’re wrong – you might very well be right – but I’m curious to know where this info is coming from.
December 8th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Hello Dazzlin Donna,
I first learned of this in Grizzly’s blog and went and did some investigating of my own.
You might have noticed this paragraph in my post:
“It has been noted that Blogger (the free blogging host that is owned by Google) has removed the URL box from all it’s blogs comment boxes, so you are no longer able to enter your URL when posting a comment to a Blogger blog. That effectively sends out the message that Google will not tolerate anyone even giving away free links.”
I think that is a clear enough message to bloggers to be careful as Google are quite capable of slapping down any blog that they deem is giving another blog (or website) any link juice that might aid it to gain a higher PR.
The rest is from pure observation.
I just realized I omitted the link to Grizzly’s blog as a resource – oops, I’ll add it now!
I’ve already lost the PR on one of my blogs and I would like to keep it on my others if possible, so until this is made very clear by Google, I’m not prepared to take any chances with my hard earned PR. It took me too many months and a helluva lot of writing to get to here and now.
I’d like to be able to keep moving forward too.
Terry
December 8th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Sounds like you may have a case of Googlenoia.
I’ll include this article in my next Googlenoia update. How organic is that?
December 8th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
Hi Frank,
I just read your post on Googlenoia. Very good, except your solution to the paid review problem by using the rel=nofollow tag is not much help.
That will simply get you kicked out of the PPP or Smorty or whatever program for violating their TOS and will likely lose you the money on any review posts that haven’t been paid for yet.
Ouch!
Googlenoia is very Googlereal, I’m afraid! I’ve already lost PR on one of my blogs and if you read my next post you’ll see I’ve even lost PR on my Squidoo lenses!
You’re welcome to include the article in your next update if you want – hopefully there will be some more clarification from the big G by then!
Terry
December 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
“It has been noted that Blogger (the free blogging host that is owned by Google) has removed the URL box from all it’s blogs comment boxes, so you are no longer able to enter your URL when posting a comment to a Blogger blog. That effectively sends out the message that Google will not tolerate anyone even giving away free links.”
I think this just means that Blogger continues to be an inferior blog platform to Six Apart offerings or Wordpress. Blogs are about conversation – the lack of trackbacks and now this on Blogger is the reason I snicker when I seen someone using Blogger.
December 8th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Another way to view this is that perhaps Google is reacting to the recent spam comment storm and seeing do follow as a contributor to that problem (which it likely is).
December 8th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Hi David,
I don’t think Google see it that way as most bloggers with a bit of savvy moderate their comments so spammers don’t get a look in.
The ones that don’t wouldn’t know a do-follow from a do-dah so I’m sure that’s not it!
And Blogger has it’s uses – check out Grizzly’s blog (link in my post) for his take on things – you’ll be surprised what you can do with a free blog or fifty!
Terry
December 9th, 2007 at 6:20 am
I’m leaving the do-follow in there. Since we just moved to a new site, we have PR 0 and hence nothing to lose!
I think there will be a lot less blogger blogs soon as many will switch now.
December 9th, 2007 at 9:08 am
Hi Tim,
You’re right to leave it there for now if you are PR0 as Google can’t take away what you haven’t got!
I would be the same – in fact my Make Money Blog that just got slapped still has do-follow activated – as it’s now PR0 they can’t hurt it any more – I’m also continuing to do paid reviews in there just to stick the finger up at ‘em!
What amused the hell out of me yesterday was grabbing a really good review in PPP for the new eco-search engine which is powered by none other than G itself!
I cocked a real snook at them by writing the review in the Make Money Blog at PR0 when I could have easily written it here where I get four times the traffic and exposure (because they didn’t require a link)!
Ha!!!
That’ll teach ‘em!
December 9th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Well geez. If it’s not one thing with google, it’s another.
I’m in process of moving my blogger blog to wordpress, with only one more thing to do, and now google wants to attack the do follow.
I’m going to pop over and check out Andy Beard’s blog, since he manages the dofollow community on Bumpzee, and see if he’s become nofollow.
Hey Google! You suck!
December 10th, 2007 at 3:02 am
As far as I’m concerned being concerned with page rank is a mistake. Page rank has no direct correlation with traffic or ranking in the SERPs as far as I can tell. If “do follow” gets you more visitors (for whatever reason) then that is good.
December 10th, 2007 at 7:55 am
Hi Lin,
At the moment this is only an educated guess, although Google have ways of putting their message across that can be pretty attention grabbing!
Maybe we’re wrong (I hope so), but on recent form, I have a bad feeling about this.
Terry
December 10th, 2007 at 8:06 am
Hi Rick,
Being concerned with page rank is dependent on what you need it for. To be honest, most bloggers needed it to make money from paid ads, text links and paid reviews. The higher your PR, the more money you could earn.
I’, just pissed that it took me so long to figure that out and then by the time I managed to get a good enough PR to start making some money, Google went and changed the rules again!
That’s what sucks for me!
If I’d been in on this a year or two ago, I’d be much richer than I am now – just look at Yaro Starak – he was making $6k a month from his PR6 blog and it nearly ALL came from selling links in one way or another. That’s no small change!
SO don’t discount PR out of hand. It WAS a money maker.
Now, Google are stamping that out but it’s still a good indicator of relevance of a site/blog to it’s keywords and therefore it’s potential placement in the SERPs
It’s also all about credibility and a high PR blog is seen by most Internet Marketers as an indicator of experience and respect by its peers – not always, but most of the time.
Terry
January 26th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
PR update. Our site Redneck Bar & Grill is three months old. It was born with a dofollow plugin, all links for free. I promoted it with a banner and a post, and plenty of links have gone out. I went from pagerank 0, to pr 4, in 3 months.
I still have not seen any evidence that leads me to believe Google cares if I give away free links.
January 28th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Thanks Tim,
I’m beginning to wonder what to make of all this. My recent switch in methodology means I’m less bothered about PR, when it can be bought (see my later posts on buying expired domains).
The only thing that worries me is that the first 20 or so blogs that were published on the original D-List that were all PR3 or 4 are ALL now PR0.
Either they were doing paid reviews and got caught, or they were giving away (or selling) too many links and got slapped.
Having said that, I did paid reviews here and managed to alter all the links to nofollow without suffering any penalty, same on my Make Money (The Honest Way) blog that still holds its PR3 despite getting really hammered with paid reviews (which are also now nofollowed).
I bought a PR6 domain and deliberately used it for paid reviews and it lasted a mere two weeks before losing it. I made $300 with that domain, so it was worth the sacrifice – it was a crap domain anyway that would have lost its PR in the next PR review, so who cares!